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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (29 children)

They don’t change it every generation. Apple has been using the lightning port since 2012.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Yeah it's a really weird reputation Apple's gotten, but it's completely unfair. In the time I've been using Android smartphones they've switched from micro-USB to USB-C.

Over that same time period, Apple has always used Lightning.

Go back a bit further and Apple's older 30-pin connector comes into play, but that's still just 2 cables in the entire history of smartphones so far. Compare that to the proprietary cables that could often vary by model on the various devices that existed prior to Apple and Android taking over the market and it's a pretty good situation.

iPads have been a little worse, going from 30-pin to lightning and starting to use USB-C in 2018. But still, even that's been very stable since then.

There's plenty of legitimate things to criticise Apple for. Like their opposition to the right to repair. We don't need to be making shit up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, it’s frustrating that everyone acts like lightning has no redeeming qualities. Lightning is a postless port, meaning that the failure mode is outside the device. If you accidentally trip over your cable, the cable will break but the port will be fine. That’s why your grandma can be using a 10 year old iPhone and treat it like shit

I think a serious argument could be made that more e-waste could be made by having a device that has a higher chance of breaking.

I’ll be happy to have a single cable for everything but that device will have a short life overall once it hits the point where the cost of any repair on the port outweighs the value of the device.

I’ll also have a lot of lightning cables that will become obsolete but that’s how it goes. There will be a ton of old people giving a lot of retail works a lot of shit that Apple changed ports just to make money. It happened when they went from 30-pin to lightning over decade ago and will happen again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you accidentally trip over your cable, the cable will break but the port will be fine.

Tbh this is thing I'm not excited about the USB-C future on. On paper, I would expect that Lightning be more problematic since the springy bits are on device rather than the connector. In practice, I've never seen a Lightning port fail since it's come out. Micro-USB, which is much closer to USB-C in design (obviously with improvement) for me has basically come with an expiration date. I don't have enough USB-C stuff yet to say if that's going to continue, but it's a concern for sure.

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