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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

This article may be bullshit, but people are still wasting their time on walled gardens like Signal. Organizations like Signal can easily disappear because they run out of money or, arguably worse, sellout because there is no other way to stay afloat. I wouldn't use any messenger not compatible with the XMPP internet standard at this point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Isn't signal open source though? I know being open source doesn't magically make it interoperable with other services but even if Signal or Whisper systems sell out, someone could just fork the projects

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All your contacts will still be gone when their servers shut down.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So? Data permanence isn’t the main idea of Signal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now everyone is using WhatsApp again and all energy that went towards convincing everyone to use Signal is lost. A better use of that energy would have been be to promote provider independent internet standards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not in my social circles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Using the current server distribution of my contacts, I would never loose more than 13% of my contacts if a single server shuts down. Federated systems are much more resilient against providers shutting down as well as takeovers. Think Reddit vs Lemmy, Twitter vs Mastodon, Signal vs XMPP.

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