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I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So salary theft by employers is not really theft. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If it's theft, it's theft. If it's fraud, it's fraud. It could be either. But "wage theft" is not copyright infringement, which is not theft.

Here's what California's Department of Industrial Relations says:

Wage theft is a form of fraud

https://www.dir.ca.gov/fraud_prevention/Wage-Theft.htm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stealing services doesn't necessarily have to do with copyright infringement.

My point is that OP over simplification of theft is not even worth considering, from a legal or personal point of view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really, theft is theft. Fraud is fraud. Just because something feels like theft doesn't make it theft.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You were the one who quoted that wage theft is a form or fraud, so I'm not sure what's your point. Yes, some theft can be fraud... but still theft.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wage theft isn't theft, it's fraud.