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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ya there's literally no way for poor people to buy EVs even if they wanted to. Another huge issue is poor people live in apartments and can't charge EVs at home either.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you're being fiscally responsible there's no way to buy most new cars. People are too used to living well above their means. How these Army recruits straight out of boot camp are dropping 80k on a truck that'll never even see a sheet of plywood or drywall assuming the bed is even big enough is beyond me.

I haven't paid more than 18k on a car and even that felt like too much. And I'm well above the median household income for my region.

Frankly I wish I didn't need a car at all, but it'll be decades before our infrastructure can support that lifestyle if ever. Unless you're willing to give up an additional 2 to 3 hours per day on travel ... and I'm not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Ya the most I've ever spent on a car is 20k, that was 8 years ago and I'm still driving it. I have a coworker with an EV and it's really annoying to hear him suggesting switching cars to save money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The used EV market is what's really preventing lower-income adoption. The insanity of the secondhand prices over the pandemic is only now beginning to break. I'm seeing polestar 2 models with reasonable miles in the high 20's. That's an enormous discount off the sticker. Tesla has also seen serious price drops.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which is why car makers need to pursue ideas like e-fuels and hydrogen cars. The obsession with BEVs is tunnel vision, and is doing more harm than good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I like how Toyota continues to pursue hydrogen engines. Their demos are very cool, I especially enjoy the exotic exhaust notes haha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Hydrogen cars pleeeeeease. Hydrogen power is so cool! Internal combustion that outputs water! It's literally magic! And it's powered by the most common element in the universe!