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'Your Turn': United Auto Workers Launches Campaign to Unionize Tesla::After the UAW won contracts with the Big Three, it's seeking to unionize 150,000 workers across a dozen companies including Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 11 months ago (25 children)

This is a very exciting time. I've been a union guy for 25 years and I will go to my grave not understanding the fierce resistance to unions by my X gen and the boomers. When they would say unions were bad, I'd say let's make ours amazing and... they just refused.

I never thought I would see the resurgence of American labor unions. This is an absolute joy to see.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've been in one union and it was a corrupt joke. That said, it was still the best unskilled job I've had by a large margin.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've been in two, and both of them were this way. Tossed most of us under the bus to protect a small group of older employees. We definitely need more unionization, but we also need to weed out the unions that are counterproductive.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Public employee unions are a bit different though because unlike labor unions there is a third interested party in addition to management and labor, namely the public.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

My first union had that reputation. I became a steward and was known as a reformer. Honestly, they weren't particularly corrupt or self dealing, they were just really bad at messaging for the employees. Over time, it just became "common knowledge" that the leadership was secretive and self dealing.

I don't mean that to say that yours wasn't self dealing. Those existed and continue to exist. But I have also never been in a union where the labor body was involved and took it seriously and also had those kinds of problems. If there's one takeaway I learned from unions, it's that we get the union we deserve. When we're in it and active as a body, those were always the best unions. When we have an apathetic labor body, we have an apathetic union.

There will always be factions like every other human activity. People will often be tribal to the detriment of the whole. But at the same time, in my experience, those most against "unions" were almost always the people least involved or not involved at all.

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