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Judge finds evidence that Tesla, Musk knew about Autopilot defect (www.reuters.com)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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A Florida judge found "reasonable evidence" that Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk and other managers knew the automaker's vehicles had a defective Autopilot system but still allowed the cars to be driven unsafely, according to a ruling.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if that's the reasoning that will hold up in court. Would a judge say a 1 in a billion chance is "extremely likely? That reasoning would apply to all cars in general wouldn't it? Driving is potentially dangerous no matter what car you drive. People are guaranteed to die in car accidents everyday just by sheer volume and that would be true if Tesla didn't exist.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for them. I'm just dubious of getting a conviction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not that people die crashing them, or even that a manufacturing/software defect causes the deaths.

It's that Tesla knew that there was a software error that would almost certainly cause somebody to die, and intentionally chose not to address the issues for financial reasons. That's textbook depraved indifference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of that cost of a recall calculation scene from Fight Club.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that's exactly why the depraved indifference rule exists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are there any famous examples of that being used?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Schlitterbahn waterpark is a fairly recent high-profile example.

The designers of the water coaster and co-owner of the park were charged with murder because they knew the ride was lethally dangerous and kept it running.

In fact, they'd paid off people hurt in other near-death accidents to keep quiet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the example! I'll definitely check that out.