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Seriously this was very surprising. I've been experimenting with GrayJay since it was announced and I largely think it's a pretty sweet app. I know there are concerns over how it isn't "true open source" but it's a hell of a lot more open than ReVanced. Plus, I like the general design and philosophy of the app.

I updated the YouTube backend recently and to my surprise and delight they had added support for SponsorBlock. However, when I went to enable it, it warned me "turning this on harms creators" and made me click a box before I could continue.

Bruh, you're literally an ad-blocking YouTube frontend. What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to be facilitating ad-blocking and then at the same time shame the end-user for using an extension which simply automates seeking ahead in videos. Are you seriously gonna tell me that even without Sponsorblock, if I skip ahead past the sponsored ad read in a video, that I'm "harming the creator"?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don't respect my attention and time, thought

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, the person making the video you are watching respected your time to the point they put in 10-100x the amount of time it takes you to watch that video to make it.

And the sponsor ad is how they afford said time commitment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they put in 10-100x the amount of time it takes you to watch that video to make it.

And show it to millions of people... So per capita... I put in more time then they did.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Apologies. You are the true hero. Thank you for your service

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No not even close. You did not put in more time.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Hence why it might be hurtful to small creators. I'd love to see the numbers on that though, as the overall percentage of people using an adblocker is very low, I assume for Sponsorblock it's significantly less.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Then they fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I completely agree with you, and that's the reason I block them as well. I was just trying to give an explaination for the app's behaviour.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Skip it all you want but don't act like it's such a terrible inconvenience. Creating high quality content is a full time job and people gotta eat

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytime the same argument. I don't want to see ads never ever, period. They are useless and annoying at best, sometimes plain evil manipulation.

I recognize the need of income for creators, and they can ask for money in the form of donation/subscription and other methods. I am paying and will pay for everything I want to support. If you decide that your way to sustain yourself is by shoving up fake opinions and useless noise in order to manipulate me into buying something, I don't accept it. It's as simple as that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the creators you like choose to monetize with sponsors, you can choose not to watch them instead of complaining about it on a forum. Or go create the content you like yourself.

I don't like ads either and have stopped watching several channels because of how they use them.

"Every time the same argument" is right - "my time is valuable but the creator's time is not!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No people think everything should be free.