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Wanted:

  • large screen
  • good battery life
  • great camera
  • long device lifetime, i.e. repairability, software and security updates, swappable battery, ...
  • enough RAM (8GB) and built-in storage (256GB)
  • SD card slot and 3.5mm won't hurt (but we use wireless headphones all the time)

The competition are (from my POV):

  • Samsung S23+ (or similar)
  • Motorola Edge 40 Pro (or similar)
  • Google Pixel 8 Pro

I ruled out all other vendors due to disappointing update promises. Motorola with 4 years security updates promised (out of which the first year has already passed if the model is not brand new) is the minimum.

All phones are stretching the budget; must be really good to justify the expense. Benchmark for "great" is better than the previous generation (S10).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The FP5 is the best in terms of repairability. The device just opens up without any insane glue, just clips and screws, the parts are there and are reasonably priced. And it's manufactured with sustainable source material according to the company. The workers are treated well also according to them. The company directly sells the FP4 with the deGoogled /e/os which shows that they care about privacy. I could also see them selling this one with built in /e/os sometime in the future. It also does everything you expect from a phone reasonably well.

However, as a phone in that $750 price range, the features and polish are lacking. For some reason, the phone just feels sluggish to use. I have a Pixel 6 and compared to it the difference is night and day. The screen says that it's 90Hz but it feels like 25Hz when scrolling sometimes. So I recorded scrolling on a chromium browser on both the FP5 and the P6P. I think you can see the difference. Keep in mind that the videos are both 60Hz so I'm probably not inaccurate when I say 25Hz.

I think the phone is overall positive since it gets you from point A to point B and the philosophy behind it is great. I myself am gonna be regularly using it since the sluggishness is something I kinda gotten used to.

Edit: I should have mentioned this from the get-go. But I have installed /e/os which is in beta. This could contribute to the slowness so take my experience with a grain of salt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I am on an FP4 and there is nothing sluggish about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Damn I was also thinking of taking the FP5, but your report of it being sluggish really make me reconsider.

It's really a shames they do a home run on everything else and then fails just on the UX at the end...

Edit: ans reading below, slow and irregular security update is even worse....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@spookedbyroaches @_edge @android
Genau,lieber ein Pixel mit GrapheneOS. Die meisten reparieren ihr Smartphone eh nicht, wenn es kaputt ist, sondern kaufen gleich ein neues! Und nach 3-4 Jahren ist das Ding eh durch🤷‍♀️

Wobei das der Akku im Fairphone so einfach auf die Schnelle entfernt werden kann - hat schon was!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ich bin anderer Meinung, ich habe den Bildschirm meines P6P kaputt gemacht und ihn repariert. Ich denke, das Hauptproblem sind die Praktiken der Unternehmen, die eine Reparatur so schwierig machen. Ich denke, wenn man sich Jeffry Hughes anschaut, der auf YouTube Telefonreparaturen durchführt, erkennt man, dass dort ein übler Blödsinn vor sich geht, der nur dadurch erklärt werden kann, dass die Unternehmen nicht wollen, dass irgendjemand die Telefone repariert. Außerdem glaube ich nicht, dass es neue Dinge gibt, die neue Telefone mit sich bringen, solange es scrollt und eine Verbindung zum Internet herstellt, ist alles in Ordnung. Der einzige Grund, warum ich mein Note 10+ nicht habe, ist, dass der Bildschirm fast so teuer ist wie ein gebrauchtes P6P.

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