this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
99 points (100.0% liked)
Privacy
31982 readers
385 users here now
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
Chat rooms
-
[Matrix/Element]Dead
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Great, Google and Cloudflare taking yet another chunk for the Internet. Becoming the middle-man in everything.
Centralize the internet MORE until there is only ONE SITE. Only then will it be PERFET.
Well Facebook tried that.
Isn’t Elon attempting that with X?
[This comment has been deleted by an automated system]
What I prefer is not making the entire Internet into something that only works because Google+Cloudflare work as this giant man-in-the-middle / proxy for everything out there. If Google actually makes this service the default behavior on Chrome that's where we're going, think about it, hosting providers, datacenters and ISPs will simply assume that to reach any website you'll be going to Google and Cloudflare's servers, then they'll prioritize traffic to those, enter into special agreements and obliterate net neutrality in a new way.
This can really spiral-down into a situation where you can't even reach websites if you don't use that service very quickly. I bet both of companies will push for that scenario because if they do then they'll become the middle man and be able to tax everyone on Internet traffic, strong-arm ISPs and push their cloud hosting offerings with cheaper prices and advantages that other provides can't match because they aren't on the middle. Just think about how much money CL can do selling "proxy / near edge advanced caching for websites" and stuff like "if you host in Google Cloud you'll get that caching service at proxy level for free" and then they proceed to place even more servers in your ISP's datacenters to cache said content. ISPs will be happy as this will limit the amount of peering and "outside traffic" they've to do and CL+Google will own the Internet even more.
Yes the EU will be very happy to go against Google on this one as this look a lot like a classical case of dominant market position abuse and an anti-competititve scheme.
[This comment has been deleted by an automated system]
The diference is that Google says they want to make this feature the default - not something you've to enable like the image proxy.
Yes right now it doesn't but the path is obvious. Chrome has a 63% market-share, if you get half of the Internet using this service by default you can be sure that ISPs will even offer datacenter space to Cloudflare as long as they maintain the hardware and cache of the Internet inside their networks. After all they already have similar agreements like this for their CDN.