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Google employees typically work more than eight hours a day: Internal memo::Employees said they were eager to share the HR representative's response with their relatives.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get to choose though. I have unlimited time off/sick days, roll into work at whatever hour I want and can take time that I need to do other things. Nobody is forcing me to stay, and I had the opportunity to tell them how long it would take. I am also free to call it off and extend if I need.

I work a lot, but the company isn't enforcing bad work life balance. Imagine if you had a job where your boss paid you hundreds of hours of overtime beforehand, and left it to you to decide when and if to take it, would you not sometimes do overtime when you feel it's your responsibility?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You may get to choose. All those people whose bosses tell them they're needed to come in on the weekend again do not. It's not legal to enforce overtime, but it's done in practice all the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah thats definitely not ok, but in recent years I find work life balance, or at least the facade, has been a bigger part of company pillars. It's really taboo to ask someone to stay past 4pm no matter what time they started. Nobody on any of my teams, and none of the teams I've ever been on have had mandatory overtime (that's illegal in Canada for the most part unless they're paying double bubble). Given we are salaried they can't pay us overtime, so they pay us "ahead of time".

I think you're right, the pursuit of profit should not go against how we live as a society, but a lot of these FAANG workers are really cushy. I guess what I'm trying to say is I feel bad for the factory worker who is at risk of losing his job if he doesn't do OT because he is short staffed and they are threatening to move the factory. I don't feel bad for well paid engineers who decide to stay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I would caveat your comment about FAANG workers being cushy. The majority of their workforce these days are contracted versus permanently hired on with the company proper. Those contractors/subcontractors get treated like disposable shit.