this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2023
279 points (98.3% liked)
Technology
59148 readers
1946 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Unfortunately we still need tunable baseline power in order to keep current, voltage, and frequency within the grid's margin of error. Our options for that are: situationally available (and often environmentally problematic) hydro, fossil fuels, nuclear, and/or giant toxic/fire-prone battery banks.
Would geothermal work? I can't think of any particular reason that the heat of the earth should vary much with time (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption), and energy production should be more controllable because to my understanding it generally just makes steam for a turbine like more traditional power sources.
Geothermal is really expensive in most parts of the world. It costs a lot of money to drill deep enough and to have enough capacity.
Plasma deep drilling is starting to hit the market which should make geothermal available pretty much everywhere. The sad thing about current geothermal is that it's not even used in areas where you do have heat near the surface, the reason is that geology is quite unpredictable and every borehole is a crap-shoot between hitting the jackpot and having to pay damages out of your arse because people's houses collapse. Deep drilling has none of those issues.
Out of those you listed, nuclear is the least flexible in terms of output regulation. PV with batteries is the most flexible.
Hydro is definitely the least flexible. Those gate move slow.
Hydro is often turned on and off as pumped storage. Nuclear never is
You forgot hydrogen, saltwater batteries, proper grids, biogas, etc.
If you'd use nuclear power like that, you'd drive up the costs even more, because it's just not very viable to compete with solar and wind during the day. Better to just invest in proper storage solutions.
Running frequency regulation off batteries is a silly idea, that's more capacitor range. Also, flywheels, which is how fossil fuels do it anyway.