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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7597775

Alienation of labour, what's that?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

True, although this can be alliviated by working in a worker-owned cooperative business

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

not rly, market machinations force co-ops to behave like for-profit capitalist companies regardless. The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that it has a boss. Even if you have great conditions as a worker-owner, your privilege is just built on the backs of non-owner (aka. 2nd class) workers and outsourcing (see Mondragon in Spain for example)

Don't get me wrong though: co-ops are still virtually always better than "standard" corporations imo. What I mean to say is that the systemic problem of capitalism is not solvable by just creating companies "of a new type"

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're forgetting the fact that your work has zero value in a vacuum though. If you enjoy your employment and are well remunerated for it, then a cut for the enabler isn't actually unreasonable. Having said that, the cut taken is usually way too high, but that's another discussion...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing is: just owning the means for someone elses work is not a service you provide to others (ie. employment). That whole position (the private ownership of the means of others work) is redundant and leeches off of society

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