this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2023
959 points (92.4% liked)
Memes
45660 readers
1525 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
If a memeber of said Militia can spend 2 weeks in a psychiatric ward for hearing voices in his head telling him to shoot up the said Militia he is a part of and still keep the means to carry out the will of said voices it isn't well-regulated, sorry not sorry. The term Well-Regulated doesnt automatically mean it is going to be regulated.
Between active and reservists there are well over one million national guard memebers. The crimes of one of them hardly imply that the regulation is not good. Mistakes are possible, and considering he was let out of the psych hospital is it impossible to think the mistake even could have come from the profit driven org who makes the absolute thinniest proft margins from mental health care? What about the police, did they not also drop the ball, they could have seen this coming, this person was known publicly for his gun lust and extremism. Or is all the blame only on the one orginazation that makes your opinions the most correct looking?
Yeah, mistakes like american gun laws. In related news, this year, a soldier from Germany's National Guard did not go on a killing spree. Nor did a soldier of the French National Guard.
IT IS THE GODDAMN FUCKING GUNS
A French cop went on a mass shooting in 2017. In 2020 an ex soldier in france went on a shooting. Sure it wasn't this year but acting like this doesn't happen elsewhere is wild. In fact the chances that the shooter is in a well regulated legal organization are higher elsewhere since the other people dont even have guns like that. So I assume Frances gun laws are a problem for you too since they cant stop their Law Enforcement from doing this?
'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
The comment you replied to it literally proof that this incident would still and does still happen in France. This whole time I've specifically been speaking about those that would be considered to be in a well regulated militia because that phrase is meaningless, as shown. French gun laws wouldn't stop this, the only country argument is moot here, because we're literally not the only country whos LEOs and military go on rampages.
the fact that you have to go to other years proves that this happens way more rarely in France than in the USA. In fact, you can see that in all of the graphs there are gun related deaths in every country.
The point is that it happens 100 times more in the USA than in any other developed country
And my point remains, when it comes to service members and LEOs, even Frances gun laws wouldnt stop this case. In fact, take the number of Cop and Military shooters, adjust per capita then compare the stats, because yall keep trying to derail my points about the well regulated militia stuff.
well since it happend twice in 3 years in france im assuming you have data for 70 yearly US LEO or Military member committed mass shooting yeah? Or are you gonna keep veering away from what ive actually been arguing this whole time again?
Note bolded text. No shit this happens in other countries - the death stats for them aren't 0. But it's a rare anomaly there rather than just another Tuesday like here.
Whens the last time a US military service member went on a shooting spree, adjust per capita, then compare. Yall are doing everything to try and derail my original point about militias.