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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not such a big deal. Their objective is to get people hooked on the system. After that, they'll jack up the price. Microsoft can easily afford to lose money for several years in pursuit of that target.

(One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

One way this plan could fall through is if LLM tech progresses to the extent that free and open source copilots, run locally, can give result that are just as good.

MS might be in trouble then.

Performance is not great but apparently it’s not optimized at all as of right now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are already very impressive local models for coding. Some have come out favourably to copilot in tests iirc

Edit: https://evalplus.github.io/leaderboard.html

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not familiar with the tech, but wouldn't server-side LLMs still have an advantage regardless because of the greater power available on tap? Anything that improves local LLM will also benefit server-side LLMs, wouldn't it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily, as it gets faster the latency between your local and remote machines becomes a bigger fraction of the time taken to process anything. If your local machine processes in 50ms and the remote machine in 5s, a latency of just 45ms would make your machine faster.

Running locally also cuts out a lot of potential security issues inherent to sending data over a network, and not sending your data to a third party is a bonus too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Possibly, but given the choice between paying $20/m for a marginally better version of something that’s free and probably built in to your editor at that point, most people would probably take the free thing. At that point paid llms will need to find new niches beyond simply existing.