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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Please, hold all your "switch to Linux" comments

Linux is not as great a replacement as every one makes out to be. The community is hella toxic. Frequently leads to them shooting them selves in the foot. Right now they're trying to pick a fight with Nvidia because they dared to call Linux's sacred GPL syscalls

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Linux community is full of elitist assholes who think they're special because they have the ability to install an OS. However, there are also amazing people making amazing tools, completely free of charge. You can't paint everyone with the same brush.

Honestly, I wish our governments would pump money and resources into open source operating systems so that we're not all bound to one OS under the complete control of one company.

My understanding of the Nvidia situation is that they are not respecting the kernel's GPL license, which isn't right. Nvidia has always done awful, selfish things, which makes sense as they are a market dominant company. It doesn't mean the Linux developers have to allow them to break the license agreement. Intel and AMD seem to be doing just fine, it's always Nvidia...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I wish our governments would pump money and resources into open source operating systems

They do. The US NSA being of note with SE Linux.

It doesn't mean the Linux developers have to allow them to break the license agreement

Yes. Completely agree. The problem is, from my reading, is that Nvidia violated GPL by calling GPL functions as opposed to code stealing. The problem with GPL is that it forces everything to be GPL or you're in violation of the license. Link a GPL library, your code now has to be GPL. Called a GPL function, congratulations, your code has to be GPL. This critical fault in GPL has been brought up time and time again. Thankfully this issue is infrequently enforced. But that just means it becomes a ticking time bomb.

Let me be clear, I'm not defending Nvidia's actions. Just that in the blame game, GNU's toxic attitude should be called out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I kinda figured that there was some funding by governments but not nearly enough. SE Linux I always assumed was maintained by Redhat, like many other Linux components.

That makes the Nvidia situation a little more interesting. I'd imagine other proprietary software uses GPL'd libraries, like Steam? Doesn't seem fair if only certain software is being targeted for violating the license. At the same time I'm annoyed how little Nvidia contributes back. It feels like AMD is creating open standards like Freesync while Nvidia won't let others play with their toys in the sandbox, like G-Sync.

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