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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6745228

TLDR: Apple wants to keep china happy, Stewart was going after china in some way, Apple said don’t, Stewart walked, the show is dead.

Not surprising at all, but sad and shitty and definitely reduces my loyalty to the platform. Hosting Stewart seemed like a real power play from Apple, where conflict like this was inevitable, but they were basically saying, yes we know, but we believe in things and, as a big company with deep pockets that can therefore take risks, to prove it we’re hosting this show.

Changing their minds like this is worse than ever hosting the show in the first place as it shows they probably don’t know what they’re doing or believe in at all, like any big company, and just going for what seems cool, and undermining the very idea of a company like Apple running a streaming platform. I wonder if the Morning Show/Wars people are paying close attention.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (3 children)

reduces my loyalty to the platform

Why the fuck would you have any loyalty to Apple? They sure as shit don't have any loyalty to their customers. In fact they piss in the face of their customers and tell them it's raining.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apple has setup their walled garden in such a way that you're basically all-in or all-out of their ecosystem. I don't know that they have brand loyalty as much as they have a captive audience that they can sell iWhatever to over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they have brand loyalty

Oh, they have some brand loyalty atleast. In my country, Apple has a miniscule market share across all domains[ laptops or phones included ]. They recently launched 2 Apple Stores in a bid to slowly extend themselves inside the market. Quoting from a news article

Another Apple loyalist, Vivek, who waited in the queue for 17 hours to get his iPhone said, "I have been here since 3 p.m. yesterday. I waited in the queue for 17 hours to get the first iPhone at India's first Apple store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure those people who wait in line are either paid to do so, or genuinely suffering from a negative mental health condition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you see price of iPhone in developing countries, it cones out to be more than a month of income.
so, it's essentially a status symbol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they're basically 50s house wives showing off their new microwave. Why are humans like this, like I get showing off your shit but doing it for status is just weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

that's very much on the point.
As for the reasons — from what I've observed — it's more of a follow culture. they saw someone influencial(in their eyes) doing this, so they now have to ape it. I doubt if there is any more thought process going on here.

I have friends who have bought(or actually, have been bought into) these phones on monthly installments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could sell bottled water, claiming it's better than all other water and the absolute fanboys who will live and die by apple will absolutely spend a whole months paycheck and sell their liver just for a single bottle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, remember this is the company that sold wheels for $700

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm no fan of Apple, and didn't want to believe they did this. So I googled, "$700 apple wheels," and found this.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MX572ZM/A/apple-mac-pro-wheels-kit

I swear they could sell literal feces.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's amazing! They also have a stand for $1000, stainless steel feet for $300 and a water bottle for $80.

It's crazy what money people are willing to throw at apple.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Worst of all, you still need a hex bit (that fits) instead of them adding it to the kit for that ridiculous price.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They currently sell a monitor stand for $1,000.

It's not even new. It's been out for over three years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's not just any monitor stand! It tilts and goes up and down and is shiny.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is, and always has been, an illusion.

They have brand fanatics that don't want to research alternatives because most Apple users aren't even close to knowledgeable of emerging technologies outside their own ecosystem.

Apple retains customers by making them comfortable with the fact they offer most of what they need, and in an attractive, easy-to-understand package. The walled garden makes them feel safe and connected in a world they are slowly falling out of touch with, or the world they never were in touch with (the tech world).

I know people of all levels of intelligence that use Apple. It's not about that... But I don't know a single apple user (that has chosen that path) that's highly knowledgeable about things like modern security, privacy, and/or the true potential and limitations of modern devices.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've met a lot of hardcore people way up in the tech hierarchy that rock MacBooks. Like people who maintain popular languages, people who make kernel contributions, people who design CPUs and accelerators.

There are many knowledgeable people who willingly make the choice, understanding the tradeoffs and accepting them. Some people don't want to be fucking with Arch or Kali for hours, or auditing their smartphone's firmware, for the same reason most combat veterans don't walk around wearing a bullet proof vest and a rifle.

Will you meet some hardcore hackers who won't upgrade the kernel until after they audit the changelog of both the kernel AND the compiler they're using? Sure. You'll also meet some people who live in a bunker. They have their valid motives for doing so, and people have valid motives for not doing so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Those people have MacBooks almost entirely because of the Terminal and because they don't want to deal with Linux or WSL. Brand loyalty plays little into their decision

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, but they have at least two good sci fi series.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'd argue that the two are For All Mankind and Foundation. However, Silo, Ivansion, and Severance could all be in that discussion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not gonna lie, their streaming platform is incredible but I ain't giving them any money LOL

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have one or two good shows, but it's a HUGE stretch to claim the entire offering is "incredible".

I've gotten it for free through tmobile for over a year now, and it's the least used platform I subscribe to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agree to disagree I suppose 🙂

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Hell, they tell them its apple juice and people are swallowing as if their lives depend on it. A few people i know use apple products like the iphone, and then complain when certain software doesn't run on it. I told them thats why they should have stayed with android. And they just get angry because apparently Android is for poor people?