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YouTube intensifies fight against ad blockers showing pop-ups, and users are frustrated | Blocking ad-block users::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (36 children)

Use Firefox, update the uBlockOrigin extension, update the filters, remove any other adblocking extension in case you have it. Should work just fine then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (29 children)

For now. If YT really wants to end it, they can

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (27 children)

How exactly "can" they? They've been trying pretty hard for quite a long while now and nothing has ever worked. It's also pretty logical why they can't: they don't control your device, you can do anything with it. Whatever they implement, you can always fake being a normal user. Which is exactly why no one using Firefox + uBlock sees anything of what's mentioned in this article (as long as no other addons/settings trigger the adblock detection).

Only the environment they do control is affected, which is essentially like "controlling your device": Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Netflix is able to only serve paying customers.

Sure, granting view credits for ads is a little more complicated, but definitely within googles scope.

So they can block everyone, unless you either pay or watch ads. Unpopular, sure. But they have a huge library and a constant stream of new content, so enough people would put up with it. They can also start soflty, and only tighten the screws later. Lets start with one ad per day.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, granting view credits for ads is a little more complicated, but definitely within googles scope.

How exactly? What stops someone from creating a program that behaves like a normal user earning view credits for ads, but never showing that to the actual user, only letting Google think the user is legitimate? Afaik nothing.

Yes, turning it pay-only like Netflix would technically work, but YouTube itself only works because it's "free", so yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are audits that try to determine if the view credits are legitimate. They'll cross reference a selection of data (what segments did they fetch, what was the timing like, did each ad checkpoint get crossed, etc) because companies don't like paying for ads that arent watched.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That can all be faked, just grab all the segments at a timing that would match playing it. This is why Google wants to do that trusted client thing, because there's no way to guarantee that a user is watching something on their own device unless the software and hardware on that device prevent it and the server makes the user prove they are running that software and hardware and nothing else.

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