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Sorry Python but it is what it is.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cargo just works, it's great and everyone loves it.

npm has a lot of issues but in general does the job. When docs say do 'npm install X' you do it and it works.

pip is a mess. In my experience doing 'pip install X' will maybe install something but it will not work because some dependencies will be screwed up. Using it to distribute software is pointless.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use pip extensively and have zero issues.

npm pulls in a million dependencies for even the simplest functionality.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that really the fault of the package manager or is it of the libraries you decide to use?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fault of the libraries you decide to use, i.e. any and all node libraries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well if that's the case, can't argue with that lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Really the fault of js since its standard library is so lacking (leftpad, anyone?), but js wasn't built to do half the stuff it's being asked to do, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ve never had broken dependencies?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. I know mixing pip with python packages installed through your systems package manager can be a problem but that’s why I containerize everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I separate everything in virtual environments myself, but in my opinion you shouldn't need to that to simply avoid breaking your system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It probably works for your own local project. After using it for couple of days to install some 3rd party tool my conclusion is that it has no idea about dependencies. It just downloads some dependencies in some random versions and than it never works. Completely useless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is clearly a layer 8 issue lmao.