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I'd love to see someone bring a shopping cart amount of groceries on a bus or train
You don't. If you live where cars are not needed, e.g. Tokyo, you'll just walk to your nearest small grocer and get the ingredients you need. That's what I did when I stayed in Japan for work.
How do disabled people who can't walk far get their groceries then? ๐ค
How do disabled people who can't drive get their groceries in a car centric city?
If you can drive a car, you can probably also drive an electric wheelchair. This should be sufficient to take public transit or go to a nearby store.
By having specially designed cars that enable them to drive.
Even the ones who by the nature of their disability can't do anything mentally or visually taxing, like drive, don't disprove or negate the need for cars because everyone else with disabilities need them to get around. Public transport simply isn't suitable enough for them.
Even old blind people who can't pass driving tests use Uber or Lyft, because public transport simply isn't safe or suitable enough for them, especially during grocery runs.
You are assuming a car centric city here. In a walking and transit oriented city, it is safe and suitable for blind people to be independent and move by themselves. Only cars make the cities unsafe and the lack of transit makes it unsuitable to use something else than a car.
And I am assuming that because they are the norm you're complaining about in the first place.
If they're not, then go move to one.
It's as simple as that. But you don't get to demand other people lose their cars just because you don't like them, especially disabled people that will always need them as no walkable city will replace the individual autonomy, carrying capacity and convenience a car provides.
You seem to live in a car centric city with really shitty public transportation. My city has decent regular bus service and for those who need extra help, they have more handy centric busses that will directly pick people up on a schedule. I think even the tiny town I grew up in has a service that does the same because there are tons of older people that are not able to drive. We also have a shuttle service to the train station if you live too far away from one.
There are solutions to these problems that tons of cities have had no problem implementing. It sounds like either yours is not one of them or possibly it is not a service you need so you just plain do not think about it.
Ding dong, you're wrong. Walkable cities are more accessible for everyone than the carcentric dystopia.
Ding dong, you're wrong.
I have an older retired mother who uses a cane and can easily move about once she gets into the store by using the cart to stabilize herself. Taking public transportation is a no-go where she lives, because the one thing that I haven't seen mentioned here yet, is crime. As an older woman with a walking aid, she's the prime target for criminals, who also know old and elderly tend to not trust banks and use cash.
I do what I can to help and support her, however this is not always feasible, and in her words, she'd "be damned if she wasn't able to get out of the house and do her damn shopping herself".
And she's able to drive just fine. But I guess she should give up her car, her freedom, so you can feel better about, whatever the fuck you think it is that getting rid of cars will fix.
I said walkable. Didn't mention public transport. But go and fly off the handle, you brainwashed twat.
And you literally quoted someone talking about public transport, so there's that. Can't wait to see what fun things you come up with to call me this time.
You can't have carcentric walkable cities numbnut.
Uh, ever heard of commercial and residential zoning? You can have a Bodega down the street and a big box store 5 miles away. Both can coexist in the same city. Unless you're talking in absolutes, which seems like pretty poor city planning. Not sure where you're from, but in the US such things exist.
Loving the insults too, BTW. Keep them coming!
Walkable isnt "walkable" for someone who has trouble walking. Brainwashed? Hmm. Explain. And twat? There's two reasons you'd use that word, you're either European or Australian, and if that's the case, I'll take twat and wear it as a badge of honor. The other case is you're American and around my age or older where that word would be in our vernacular, in which case, at least you didn't call me a cunt, because then I'd be really sad.