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Instructions: There are 72 objects on the table that one can use on me as desired.
Performance: I am the object. During this period I take full responsibility.
Duration: 6 hours (8pmβ2am.) Studio Morra, Naples
this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2023
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I can't believe how there wasn't a single person in the audience who tried to stop anyone. Other than the person who took the gun away from her head. Still. No one stopped the people trying to injure or assault her. No one called anyone out? It's sickening.
Yeah, that's not what's written in the Wikipedia article.
I should stop trying to read things when I haven't slept.
Now I'm wondering why the entire audience fled when she finally moved. No one stuck around to ask if she needed help or anything?
The group was already self selected for those interested in attending such a performance
It may be sickening, but it is what any human being would do, given the right circumstances. To be human is to be susceptible to do this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Bullshit. The experiment you linked isn't even close to what this is:
The people who violate the performer aren't instructed, in any way, by an authority figure, and the act isn't conflicting with their personal believe. They are psychopath.
She says she takes full responsibility for what happens at the beginning. This is a big part of the milgram experiment : the scientist takes responsibility for what happens and is an important part of what explains the behavior.
If someone lays a gun on a table and tells you you can do anything with the gun and you believe that is an authority figure telling you to shoot them with them with the gun then I don't want to be anywhere near you and encourage you to rethink some shit.
Exactly. She abdicated the audience of any responsibility, which basically meant that the things that people did to her are what they would in principle do to any other person if they believed there would be no consequences for their actions.
Nobody in their right mind would have assumed she wanted to have a gun pointed at her head or be sexually assaulted, or even had consented to them. But because she willingly put herself in a position where that might happen (i.e., no consent, but no active resistance), certain people took that to mean it was okay to do those things.
There is only the tiniest sliver of a difference between this and any other situation where you strongly believe that you won't face consequences for your actions. How is what people did to her any different than doing the same shit to someone who was passed out drunk or even fully conscious but not in a position to defend themselves or report you?
You just want to excuse your own bad behaviour.
???
You should probably read the link you posted, because the results of the milgram experiment as touted by media is not really representative of what happened.
65% go up to the maximum "lethal" voltage
This is more bystander effect than submission to authority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
Bystander effect is mostly prevalent when cobfederates are instructed to specifically be passive, though. If there are people helping, even one person, the "bystander effect" is effectively reversed.