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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No guarantees on pay, benefits, or work rules

Uuuhhhhhhh, isn't that the current state and literally what unions are for? Setting guarantees for all that shit?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole point is having a legally binding contract that sets wages, hours, and working conditions. Also the "going through your union instead of your manager" is super dumb. It's like saying, "why talk to your lawyer when you can just confess to the police?"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No guarantee as in "theoretically, we could fold up our entire business instead of bothering to negotiate". They won't, of course, but it's not liably false (IANAL) because there's a valid weird hypothetical.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not a hypothetical: Hostess folded, as did Yellow trucking. Unions can't save a business from bad business decisions or destructive market forces.

But businesses fold all the time, union or no union. When business is good, unions make sure the employees get a fair piece of that.