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Okay that was my thought. I didn't know if something became public in the chromeOS security world that I missed
i was talking about the botnet that is google itself, with chromebooks being a literal physical part of it.
Are you referring to privacy concerns or something else. Because when I think of the word botnet I think of DDoS attacks. Do you think Google's doing something like that?
google is a machine learning, data harvesting botnet most ppl opt in consensual.
I mean that's what we want right? To be able to opt in consensually. What do you think pays for Gmail, Google maps, YouTube, etc all the "free" services that most of us use every day?
if you love being the product, go ahead. i haven't used any gapp in years and don't feel like i'm missing something.
Some company somewhere has a file with your web history, likes and dislikes, etc saved in it. A credit card company or Facebook definitely have one. Facebook specializes in creating profiles of people who either don't have or deleted their Facebook accounts. Apparently Facebook sells that data too advertisers as "harder to reach." Don't use Google, or Android, or anything other thing you don't want but don't think you're actually anonymous.
you're confusing things, i talk about not handing over my internet profile and it's associated data to a conglomerate to make money off it, you talk about anonymity. two different pair of shoes.
So in my mind they are connected. These companies, especially credit card companies and Facebook, are taking your data (due to a lack of anonymity), associating it with your identity, and making money off it. Even if you aren't seeing targeted ads your data is being sold. The argument can definitely be made that you want to limit it but if you exist on the web there's a profile tracking you somewhere.
... and by that, a chromebook is a great extension within this business model since it leaves you know choice but to use the botnet :)
Will depending on how technical you want to get there is a vibrant community that is willing to show you guys to strip Google from the control and put Linux on it. I think every Internet connected device does the same thing. Apple included.
why would i buy a machine i have to "hack" in the first place to use it as i need it to when i can have a similar or better machine for less money without any restrictions?
I think every Internet connected device does this kind of tracking too.
no.
No I actually do think that. You can take my word on what I think.
doesn't matter what you think when it's not relevant. not every internet connected device is sending personal data of it's user to google or any other adspace reseller.
Well the here's a short piece describing privacy concerns. I've read articles about such problems associated with Internet connected TVs, set top boxes, speakers, doorbells, lightbulbs, etc. I don't have the time or inclination to find sources on all of them. But I think any device that's connected to the Internet it hasn't been revealed to be leaking data then it's just really good at hiding how it leaks your data.
no one has to use any of this. if there's a home appliance that comes with "smart" in it's name, i'm not even looking at it. you broaden the topic too much, we were talking about computers in general and google in detail, now we're at lighbulbs, you're moving goal posts.
I said "I think every Internet connected device..." and you replied "no."