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Top Chinese scientists flee Boston area as Harvard, MIT fall in rankings; Silicon Valley also hit (kdwalmsley.substack.com)
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  • Thousands of Chinese researchers and scientists are leaving top jobs in leading US universities and companies, to take positions in China.
  • The Cambridge area of Massachusetts is home to Harvard, MIT, and scores of leading companies, and was the number one source of returning Chinese research and engineering talent.
  • In second place is the Palo Alto-Berkeley cluster, which includes Stanford, University of California, and Silicon Valley.
  • The migration of top scientific and engineering talent back to China is accelerating, but began nearly a decade ago. And while the political situation between China and the United States certainly is a major motivation for many scientists to return, more important is the quality of the education systems.
  • Chinese universities are now claiming the top spots across all the hard science disciplines, while American colleges are tumbling.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man, I went to a small university for my engineering masters, during graduation I realized how few Americans are going for higher level STEM degrees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do you think that is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's both stupid expensive and the jobs don't pay enough anymore. I can make the same salary as an engineer working a trade or any other white collar job.

I'm sure the growing distrust in science and general stupidity didn't help either.