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Improving the Fediverse to allow it to actually take over the social media space. (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Decentralization is obviously the big thing about the Fediverse but is it TOO decentralized to gain traction?

There is no reason why they have to be fully separate domains in the same branch. You can set up a system of fully independent moderation and extreme levels of customization while having them all on one site with a front page that allows everyone to see whats popular.

A front page wouldn't prevent individual subgroups from requiring approval to join, it wouldn't prevent subgroups from banning those it doesn't want. It doesn't prevent users from blocking subgroups that it doesn't want to see on the front page.

What would be most useful is that now someone could create an account on the Reddit, Twitter, Facebook(?) alternatives and give them access to every community, and then allow each community to set its own rules, and customize its own to be unique while having a unified product to "sell" and get people to move.

Hot take? Blue Sky should be worked with to join the Fediverse as the twitter alternative and Mastodon should work to be the Facebook alternative

TLDR: One front page and general site for Lemmy, Mastodon....and to sign up and see whats popular and then have fully independent subgroups.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A group of people who would all need to agree before action, a mini government of sorts, maybe elected idk but its the only way to gain a real foothold. The people running it are only supposed to act if illegal activity is going on and they are contacted by authorities in the appropriate jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The people running it are only supposed to act if illegal activity is going on and they are contacted by authorities in the appropriate jurisdiction.

which is the "appropriate" jurisdiction?

what if it's legal in my country, but it is illegal in the country where the server is? I have no other choice of server, you're taking away our ability to join servers in our own countries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ideally it would be hosted in the EU and thus only things illegal there would be enforced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Still too problematic, as what is legal and not in the EU depends on the trendy neo-nazi party du jour. Check Germany, for one, where apparently showing any disapproval of Israel gets you Gestapo'd, or that's what Lemmy administrators in Europe seem to fear. Or Italy / Spain, where any attempt to liberate sports transmissions gets half the internet shut down.

Oh, did I even mention Turkiye?

Honestly, I've always been of the opinion that projects that are intended to be truly international need to build up to some sort of "all humanity" jurisdiction or international waters jurisdiction. Since it's not like the UN is going to provide any sort of aid here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Switzerland is probably the country most likely to leave everyone alone lol. Because they're a direct democracy and extremely decentralized. Plus internationally neutral.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Which further emphasizes the question. If things are bad enough in Switzerland that you have to consider leaving, where to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It won't get bad there it's the richest country and has direct democracy, CHF 5,430 post tax median salary. There's nothing for an authoritarian party to say to convince voters who are the wealthier people (actual citizens) of Switzerland

Also the average assets for adults is over $700K they're too rich to fall to power hungry parties

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Which EU country? Who's to say that's the ideal? That sounds biased. Also the "ideal" (if there is such a thing) could change over time with global politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

any country in the EU

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Including Germany, which has draconian laws against criticizing Israel's genocidal actions and fascist regime, as demonstrated by the recent drama over feddit.org?

Laws aren't identical across the EU. If you are aggregating content from a bunch of instances, there will be content aggregated that's illegal in one place and not another.