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Keet and the potential of P2P technology (keet.io)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I recently stumbled upon Keet, which is a peer to peer messaging app with video calls and file sharing.

This app has a lot going for it:

The user experience is really good
~~Free and open source~~ EDIT: the UI of Keet in closed atm, but the underlying P2P building blocks are open
Privacy friendly (no datacentre, server or middleman between you and the people you are talking to)
Better quality since there's no throttling of traffic
No file size limit

I'm baffled that this app seems like a well kept secret, so I just wanted to share it with you guys.

To me, peer to peer technology seems really interesting because it addresses the root cause of many of the harms that plagues the modern day internet: surveillance, platform silos, the market dominance of multi-national tech-conglomerates, energy usage of datacentres, etc.

What do you think? Can P2P be the solution to these problems?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

P2P caught my interest because of the possibilities that opens up when you remove the middle-man/server (even better call quality, no file size limits). But it doesn’t have to be P2P - I’m just a fan of “local first”, decentralization and democratization of technology in general.

I agree, we share the same sentiment about it. Unfortunatley I didn't find anything p2p near as either centralized or decentralized(federated) services are. I do have hope there will be good infrastructure and apps that are fully p2p with no blockchain scams around them in the near future around 5 years.

For now I think xmpp is the way to go. Here you have a list of servers, and there are plenty of clients avaiable. Clients: Web - inverse.chat, movim.eu (conversejs a framework to use xmpp on the web) Desktop - Gajim, Dino, Psi+ Android - Conversations (download from f-droid) <- this one is really good iOS - Monal

Here you have more info. XMPP also has it's own issues, for example metadata, different servers supporting different stuff, different client supporting different stuff but overall it is in a really usable state and stable. Just pick some servers that are not connected to companies or states.

Also a thing about matrix which is, from what I see, more popular than xmpp, my guess is due to more marketing. In my opinion it shouldn't be used nor should get any praise from privacy oriented people. Here is a good article going further.

I'd try Tox out also, seems good. And it's good to use those apps to normalize and boost p2p, by using them we are helping them in the long run. Also Signal is kinda good option, but it is centralized which is it's biggest flaw. I think Signal did most of the work by popularizing e2e protocol which now everyone use and that they will stagnate in a centralized stage, becoming nearly commercial product.