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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (43 children)

No, Russia stated that NATO membership for Ukraine was a red line, so their goal is to either prevent membership or demillitarize Ukraine entirely, and they have the means and will to continue until those objectives are met. That's really all it boils down to.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (20 children)

This all starts when it becomes clear Ukraine has mineral rights that threaten Russia's ability to lean on Western Europe to the extent it does/did.

The NATO claims are just cover. Even if they were true Russia has zero right to determine Ukraine's future.

It's weird to see "leftists" endorse imperialism while attempting to claim any kind of morality.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (16 children)

No, it started a lot longer ago than that. Russia has maintained for decades now that NATO encirclement is a red line, and that included Ukraine. I'm not "endorsing" anything here, but explaining the cause of the war. Russia is interested in having a buffer zone against NATO, the US is interested in profiteering in the form of loans and mineral rights, and the ruling class of Ukraine is interested in gettting rich off of sending young people to die in a preventable war.

This isn't a war of "righteousness" or anything, it isn't good vs evil, but 3 countries with different interests and the Ukrainian people ending up with by far the shortest end of the stick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it started a lot longer ago than that

You can listen to Putin himself and he goes back pretty far in history.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I could, but I think it's more important to look at what's actually truly relevant. NATO/Russian relations don't go nearly that far back.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin is the Czar. What's on his matters most. Everything else is secondary or incidental.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Regardless of what Putin personally wants, Russia acts in the interests of its material conditions. Putin is a Nationalist, so his interests in maintaining a buffer from NATO generally align with the Russian public.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

acts in the interests of its material conditions

It's a foundational mistake of Marxists to reduce everything to material conditions. You will never understand the world, if that's your only frame of reference.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I don't reduce everything to material conditions, but I also don't believe in "Great Man Theory" either.

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