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The Philips Hue ecosystem is collapsing into stupidity (rachelbythebay.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Their latest round of stupidity pops up a new EULA and forces you to take it or, again, you can't access your stuff. But that's just more unenforceable garbage, so who cares, right? Well, it's getting worse.

It seems they are planning on dropping an update which will force you to log in. Yep, no longer will your stuff Just Work across the local network. Now it will have yet another garbage "cloud" "integration" involved, and they certainly will find a way to make things suck even worse for you.

If you ever saw the South Park episode where they try to get the cable company to do something on their behalf and the cable company people just touch themselves inappropriately upon hearing the lamentations of their customers, well, I suspect that's what's going on here. The management of these places are fundamentally sadists, and they are going to auger all of these things into the ground to make their short-term money before flying the coop for the next big thing they can destroy.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I swear, these bad EULA updates that basically force users to “accept the agreement, or we’ll brick your device” needs to fucking stop and be made illegal. The price that’s set for a product, especially a damn physical product, should include the acceptance of an existing EULA, and it should be honoured even when new ones come out and the user chooses to not accept the new agreement. You’ve basically never owned the product if companies can just pull the rug underneath you, and render your hardware useless. And you can’t foresee such changes too; a predatory company can acquire one that you’ve trusted and pull this shit. It’s borderline daylight larceny.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In some places you're legally allowed to reject a product and get a refund if you don't agree with the EULA. Wonder of there'll be reforms allowing people to do that of they don't accept a revised EULA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Still very annoying if it's something you installed or got installed, even if fully refunded.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"You’ve basically never owned the product if companies can just pull the rug underneath you, and render your hardware useless"

See, that's the thing, as far as the companies are concerned this is their product not yours. You'll own nothing and you will like it