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Time to get serious with E2E encrypted messaging (techcrunch.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I currently use Telegram for my friends and family, but have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the UK Government is either reaching agreement for backdoors with messaging services, or is trying its hardest to.

I'm also on Element/Matrix. Before I try to get my contacts to join me on there, should I be aware of any privacy issues or is that a good place to head?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not false.

Signal's default, well-supported installations use Google services, so unless you're an extremely atypical user, those services are present on most of your contacts' devices. You might have the knowledge, skill, and motivation to remove those services from your own device, but since they're still present at the other end of most chats, you haven't escaped them.

Let's also remember that E2EE doesn't protect the endpionts, and that Google Play Services run with system-level privileges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Signal’s default, well-supported installations use Google services

Signal only uses FCM for notifications, with a fallback mechanism (WebSockets) being available in all builds of the app, as well as Google Maps for location sharing (which most people probably don't use anyway).

so unless you’re an extremely atypical user, those services are present on most of your contacts’ devices

Google Play services being present on people's devices has nothing to do with Signal including the library. They are present on almost every Android device, because Google pressures OEMs to include them and grant them system level privileges.

Let’s also remember that E2EE doesn’t protect the endpionts

Yeah, but that's the case with EVERY messenger app, so I really don't know what your point is here?