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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

The problem isnt the registries per se, it is that they are extremely poorly administered if children are being put on them. The criteria for adding an individual to such registries needs to be strict and with a reasonably high threshold, so that nobody gets on one for things like pissing outside, or accidental exposure, or minors sexting each other, or for accidentally having a few CSAM images that they had downloaded unwittingly etc

I had some involvement with a local registry some years back, and we only inluded adults who physically offended against minors and with a significant age difference, and adults who were actively and deliberately involved in the production and distribution of copious quantities of CSAM. Most had track records involving multiple offences and multiple victims

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Child Sexual Abuse Material"

It's the new PC term for child porn. It actually is more accurate, to be fair.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is just a longer term, not better.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is that porn is consensual. A child being abused or manipulated into production can't consent.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for educating me. I hate the constant churn of PC terms. It makes communication less effective, doesn't help the problem in the slightest, and actually hampers solutions. I hope I'm not alone in this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What you're doing here is thinking your feelings are facts. You need to back up what you say with facts not feelings. Common sense is a feeling, it's not an objective truth in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, let's reverse your logic. Can you point to a study that points to a positive effect of changing "child pornography" to "csam" that would justify the effort of re-educating the public at large to this new terminology? Because if there isn't, there is no reason to change. It'll just divert effort away from solving the problem.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're assuming that I must take the other position because I called out your position.

They have reasons for theirs, you have reasons for yours.

But here you are again, another post, saying the exact same thing with nothing to back it up other than your feelings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was assuming you were arguing in good faith.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

You are not alone, but in many spaces, especially those dedicated to fighting child porn, going against the hive mind means being accused of being a pedophile. Even for something as trivial as the term being used.

It's such a toxic space.

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