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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wait, they think people want Copilot? Like enough to pay money for it?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They are banking on customers being too invested in office to switch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that might be their plan for all their products at this point. Just existing though inertia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For reasons I won't get into, I had a chance to peruse the training program for the sales force of Azure and their strategy actually is telling their potential clients that they already subscribe to Office 365 so they might as well use their cloud too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it does not surprise me. The thing that does is how common the approach seems to be in big established tech companies. I mean, it generally never works out (look at IBM, Intel, Sun, and to some degree Apple).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That with a side of suppressing a competitor. Similar to how they include Teams for corporate plans. If it is included in your M$ apps suite, then your company might want to cut back on Slack and just make due.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

MS teams sucks so fucking much, I don't understand how such a large company can make such a deficient product.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's a safe bet. I wonder if enterprise pricing is that high.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Copilot Is literally ChatGPT With a diff logo and name.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use both for work, copilot is worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It's "ENTERPRISE"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

They don't, but by providing a "classic tier" they get to kill anyone's argument against it by saying "just don't get it", until they then discontinue the "classic tier" due to a "lack of demand", and force Office users to have AI and pay for it too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Copilot for Teams is extremely useful. Recap meetings and being able to search for specific parts. People hate on AI but in this case they are definitely downplaying the capabilities.

But to be fair I'm not the one paying the bill

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If meetings are happening so long and going in so frequently that nobody can make sense of them without an ai summary, might I suggest there are too many meetings?

I say this as someone who used to work at a place that had meetings about meetings to figure out why so much time was wasted in meetings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I mean we can debate root cause and corporate culture and everything, but at the end of the day these meetings exist and copilot make them better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man, I don't know about even that... It gets stuff wrong all the time. My boss LOVES his AI bot that joins all meetings (even if he doesn't) to summarize stuff. Occasionally I look over the summary it produces; it's about 50% actually correct, 25% ambiguous not wrong but not what I meant, and 25% flat out wrong / opposite of what I meant. I'm sure he relies on the results, ugh. One time I went through the summary and corrected it all, but I don't have time for that for all meetings.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

Copilot in my experience is pretty accurate, even if not perfect. Plus it timestamps the meeting so you know where it's drawing it's conclusions from.