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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

This is amazing. People were perfectly okay with ignoring all the red flags in Proton and their products and really okay with buying all their bullshit, then a tweet saying Trump comes up and that's it. lol

[โ€“] MrRazamataz 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 49 minutes ago

From what I recall, the red flags included stuff like giving the IP away of activists, having access to private keys while claiming e2e, and taking more info than they claim. I am busy atm, but i can find some links to sources when I get a chance.

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago

But also a big plus. I'm so conflicted.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 53 minutes ago

...that looks pretty modestly-sized in the foreground, honestly...

(this is a huge red flag:)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What red flags?

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago

๐Ÿคท sometimes people grumble quietly until a final straw is added to the stack. Not surprising.