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Proton is dead (for me). Let's collect and discuss alternatives! ✊🛡 (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is amazing. People were perfectly okay with ignoring all the red flags in Proton and their products and really okay with buying all their bullshit, then a tweet saying Trump comes up and that's it. lol

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

🤷 sometimes people grumble quietly until a final straw is added to the stack. Not surprising.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The Trust Thermocline!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a piss of an excuse that is ahah

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a piss poor brain you have.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And since when did I offend you? Unless... you've been "grumble quietly until a final straw is added to the stack"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Cry about it and reflect on it, bitch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

???

[–] MrRazamataz 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What were the red flags?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

From what I recall, the red flags included stuff like giving the IP away of activists, having access to private keys while claiming e2e, and taking more info than they claim. I am busy atm, but i can find some links to sources when I get a chance.

edit: here is the link I said that I would find: from Hacker News

The Switzerland-based company said it received a "legally binding order from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice" related to a collective called Youth for Climate, which it was "obligated to comply with," compelling it to handover the IP address and information related to the type of device used by the group to access the ProtonMail account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What red flags?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

https://slrpnk.net/comment/13200172