cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/24751597
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/24748390
https://bsky.app/profile/freeourfeeds.com/post/3lfmvqip7zk2v
tldr, it's a new foundation launching with an open letter signed by:
Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia
Shoshana Zuboff, Professor Emerita, Harvard Business School and author of ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’
Mark Ruffalo, Actor
Alex Winter, Actor and filmmaker
Audrey Tang, Former Minister of Digital Affairs, Taiwan
Roger McNamee, Businessman and author of ‘Zucked’
Brian Eno, Musician
Carole Cadwalladr, Investigative journalist
Cory Doctorow, Blogger and journalist
Akilah Hughes, Writer and comedian
Sebastian Soriano, Former Chairman, Arcep
Rosie Boycott, Member, UK House of Lords
Alexandra Geese, Member of the European Parliament, Greens/EFA
...
Bluesky has expressed a clear interest in public governance of the protocol they have developed. We are establishing a Foundation to help steward this process, to ensure that the AT Protocol remains capture-resistant and is instead governed in line with a thriving public interest and open community.
Isnt Bluesky like duplicative of what the Feddy is going for?
Theoretically, not really. Realistically, no not at all. My understanding, being corporately backed. They want every server to host everything. So that they theoretically have access to everything to datamine and advertise on. In the fediverse. You can see and interact with all the content. But your server doesn't aggregate it unless you interact. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Basically what this means, is that you could spin up and host your mastodon or Lemmy server on an SBC laying in a drawer spare. Somewhat like Action Retro did with bitbang.social. If you want to run a bsky server. Theoretically you can. You will just need quite a lot of storage, bandwidth, and server hardware. Activity Pub is decentralized. The AT protocol technically can be decentralized in a way. But not really.
they didn't do it that way for no reason though, and they did do some stuff to alleviate the problems it causes.
also everything bluesky is open source
The thing is, the discoverability issue on the fediverse disappears if we stop treating it like it's a centealized space. Everything looks the same, and everything uses the visual language of centralized social media. And we encourage people to "join Mastodon" or "join Lemmy", which is like saying "join WordPress" and "join Joomla".
We need to be promoting specific websites that people can join, for the reason of wanting to communicate with people on those websites. We need to treat federation as a value-add, not the whole damn value proposition.
Until we do, we're just going to be navel gazing.
So what prevents the relay from being bought by a billionaire, who would then decide on the content of the output?
you can just run another one, currently nobody does but if the main relay gets bought out, the community can band together to run one, it's a couple hundred bucks a month, expensive, but not unsustainable.
Decentralized in theory, but not in practice is just centralized.
Also:
https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
Aren't the top few lemmy servers about that much to run?
No, instances can be run by enthusiasts and keep operating based on donations
https://feddit.org/post/2600584
https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/