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The Turing Test, enshrined by the public and media as THE test of machine intelligence, really isn't. (www.thenewatlantis.com)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Computer pioneer Alan Turing's remarks in 1950 on the question, "Can machines think?" were misquoted, misinterpreted and morphed into the so-called "Turing Test". The modern version says if you can't tell the difference between communicating with a machine and a human, the machine is intelligent. What Turing actually said was that by the year 2000 people would be using words like "thinking" and "intelligent" to describe computers, because interacting with them would be so similar to interacting with people. Computer scientists do not sit down and say alrighty, let's put this new software to the Turing Test - by Grabthar's Hammer, it passed! We've achieved Artificial Intelligence!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

even with infinite context memory

Interestingly, infinite context memory is functionally identical to learning.

It seems wildly different but it's the same as if you have already learned absolutely everything that there is to know. There is absolutely nothing you could do or ask that the infinite context memory doesn't already have stored response ready to go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Interestingly, infinite context memory is functionally identical to learning.

Except for still being incapable of responding to anything not within that context memory, todays models have zero problem solving skills; or to put it another way they're incapable of producing novel solutions to new problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well yeah, because they're not infinite. ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hence the reason it's not a real intelligence (yet) even a goldfish can do problem solving without first having to be equipped with god like levels of prior knowledge about the entire universe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Current LLM's aren't that stupid. They do have limited learning. You give it a question, tell it where it's wrong and it will remember and change all future replies with the new information you give it. You certainly can't ask a goldfish to write a c program that blinks an led on a microcontroller. I have used it to get working programs to questions that were absolutely nowhere on the internet. So it didn't just copy/paste something found.