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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (35 children)

I tell people yes do get an EV for your next car. But also use this chance to really think about if you need the car at all. Or does every adult in the household need a car each. Our city is trash for everyone having to own a car.

Best is to run your car to the ground. Then get an EV if you must own a car.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Live in a not so small town in Germany. I haven't had the need to have a car after I have been living for 9 years.

I commute with bike to work, take public transport when it's a farther journey.

Until I have a daughter a couple of months ago. I realize that I really need a car. :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s hard to have a baby without a car. It’s for sleep, for nappy changing, your closet and your pantry. Those first few years especially. If you need one even for a few years it’s totally understandable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's very difficult. Going to pediatrician for example. Or if it's raining. It's so troublesome to bring a baby with a bike in that situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cargo bike boom has brought us some really decent ways to transport small children and stuff by bike, I actually think it's quite possible to use is you live in a not so small town. There are accessories to weather proof the cargo area, there are Iso-fix mounts for child seats and once the child can sit by itself it's usually quite a joy for them as well. These bikes are also protecting the child in case of a fall much better than you would think.

However I really do understand that a car is significantly more convenient. I live in rural Germany and there distances can easily amount to 10-15km one way to run errands such as going to the pediatrician. It's just a bit much, particularly with a toddler. And the car really does become storage for clothes and all that, you can just park it and everything in there is dry and safe, all that makes the car very attractive. Also a decent cargo bike with kids-friendly accessories will run you as much as a cheap small used car, although only the initial cost of course.

The key to bad weather is decent clothes, and children can easily be weather proofed for the most part. My kid is three now and I've seriously considered switching over to a bike, but only to replace the second car that I frequently use because my partner will need one to go to work anyways. But running the car cost me around 250€ every month (I keep track of every expense except cleaning) and that is only as long as nothing major breaks. Upkeep of even a large cargo bike is a fraction of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds great! I still don't think that a cargo bike is very safe. Especially for a baby. :(

It definitely crosses my mind, that I'd do that if the kid is getting older. But definitely not before 2-3 years old.

I haven't bought a car yet. I'm still in paternal leave so I can manage to do everything. Once I start working, let's see how well we are doing without a car. :)

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