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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is 20% faster than intel a step up, generation on generation?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It'll be a step up from the 7800x3d, but how much is a question. The 9000 series in general has been a disappointment in terms of the gains that were expected, but it does show some kind of gain. There's reason to think those issues are fixable. Linux performance does show a decent uplift, for one, which has not been the case with Intel's Arrow Lake chips.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I know people meme about "Zen 5%" (sidenote: genuinely a clever quip), but most of that is down to AMD massively reducing the power draw of the chips.

If you set it to the same power limits as Zen4, you can get large performance improvements.

Gamers have been saying for years that stuff is getting too power-hungry, but when steps were made to reverse this, they collectively lost their minds.

Seriously, what are they expecting, a 25% improvement in performance at half the power draw, while staying on a 5nm-family node?

AMD were dumb for thinking gamers give even the slightest fuck about power usage. Gamers would much more readily accept a CPU going from 120W to 500W if it meant an imaginary +20% perf uplift over a CPU going from 120W to 70W with a +5% perf uplift. I say imaginary because nobody with a high end CPU and a 4090 actually plays their games at 1080p low.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are gamers and there are gamers.

Some gamers prefer not to have the level of noise of a jet engine taking off right next to them to get a couple percent more frames per second on a game.

I would say there are at least two quite different markets amongst PC gamers who have different preferred balances between performance and the downsides of it (noise, heat, power costs), a bit like not all people who enjoy driving want muscle cars.

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