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Elon's Death Machine (aka Tesla) Mows Down Deer at Full Speed , Keeps Going on "Autopilot" (jalopnik.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I notice nobody has commented on the fact that the driver should've reacted to the deer. It's not Tesla's responsibility to emergency brake, even if that is a feature in the system. Drivers are responsible for their vehicle's movements at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Then it's not "Full self driving". It's at best lane assistance, but I wouldn't trust that either.

Elon needs to shut the fuck up about self driving and maybe issue a full recall, because he's going to get people killed.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's self-driving but you need to supervise it because you are both responsible and because it's not perfect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but you need to supervise it because you are both responsible and because it’s not perfect

Not self-driving then. Words have meanings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Right. Wikipedia defines it as such

A self-driving car, also known as a autonomous car (AC), driverless car, robotaxi, robotic car or robo-car,[1][2][3] is a car that is capable of operating with reduced or no human input.

But also

Organizations such as SAE have proposed terminology standards. However, most terms have no standard definition and are employed variously by vendors and others. Proposals to adopt aviation automation terminology for cars have not prevailed.

So there's no one definition. It is driving by itself. You don't have to do any driving. But you should keep alert so if something happens you can taker over. Seems like it fits with the general use imo but doesn't fulfill the more stringent definitions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The definition is that Tesla is shit.

They're selling a spotty lane assist as Self Driving when it is not.

Other companies are selling actual self-driving cars, (even if those companies are fucking up as well) but Tesla is nowhere near that level of autonomy. All because Musk cheaped out on the sensor package.

Teslas will never be self-driving, because they literally cannot detect the road and obstacles with just their little camera setup.

They should not be allowed to call it self-driving, or autopilot, or anything else that implies that you can take your hands off the steering wheel.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

True but if Tesla keeps acting like they're on the verge of an unsupervised, steering wheel-free system...this is more evidence that they're not. I doubt we'll see a cybercab with no controls for the next 10 years if the current tech is still ignoring large, highly predictable objects in the road.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

That would be lovely if it wasn't called and marketed as Full Self-Driving.

You sell vaporware/incomplete functionality software and release it into the wild, then you are responsible for all the chaos it brings.