this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
873 points (98.8% liked)

Technology

59123 readers
4466 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean? It works the same way, the opinion of the community will pull you closer to the group consensus. Too much exposure will have horrible things you don't really believe spilling out of your mouth

Don't go there, don't spread word about it, don't feed it in any way. It's like flood water - pull others out of it if you can, but minimize your exposure

As to shutting them down if you have the ability? Shutting down a cesspool is good - it fragments the echo chamber, and some members won't make the migration. The only question is if I trust the one making that decision to remain impartial

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, trusting someone to make right decisions is hard because this trust usually ends up being betrayed sooner or later.

Regarding the first part, I meant that we as a community can't put enough pressure on a bully to make em leave, if that bully is part of the community that supports em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, but that's the beauty of it. Why are they here? If it's to troll, don't give them what they want. If it's for social interaction... Why are they venturing out of their echo chamber?

Every interaction with a community pulls you slightly closer to the group consensus. You can fight it to some extent, but we're wired to fit in with the tribe

Social rejection is wired similar to pain in our brains - it's far more salient, far more memorable and impactful, than normal interactions.

The highest form of this is rejection by the community - it hurts most when everyone's attention is on you and they all reject you. Even a single person quietly reaching out afterwards is like a lifeline - it stands out to you. It takes hundreds or thousands of "normal" interactions to counteract one extreme negative one

A supportive community back home doesn't counteract the impacts from an away game. Don't go to their turf, let them come to ours. Do not feed them - we have better content, they'll lose members to us, and if we do it right they'll shrink until their echo chambers can no longer sustain themselves

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe you're right and it could work. I'm afraid there's always a share of sociopaths this will not affect, but this may be seen as impossible to fix anyway. What I am also afraid of is that the speed of changes is glacial in this model, and sometimes people are bullied into suicide in the course of mere weeks