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US to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed in low visibility conditions (apnews.com)
submitted 4 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

Tesla, which has repeatedly said the system cannot drive itself and human drivers must be ready to intervene at all times.

how is it legal to label this "full self driving" ?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

That's pretty clearly just a disclaimer meant to shield them from legal repercussions. They know people aren't going to do that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Last time I checked that disclaimer was there because officially Teslas are SAE level 2, which let's them evade regulations that higher SAE levels have, and in practice Tesla FSD beta is SAE level 4.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

and in practice Tesla FSD beta is SAE level 4.

In theory this is pure bull, and in practice it is level 4 bull.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what I read from an article but I don't think whether they're level 4 or not doesn't really matter. The point is they officially claim to be level 2 but their cars clearly function beyond level 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

cars clearly function beyond level 2.

You want to read again what level 4 means.

Between the levels it is not just about function, but about completeness of circumstances.

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