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Well, this just got darker.

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[–] [email protected] 257 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This isn't surprising, it's inevitable.

If you folks knew how common pedophilic fantasies are amongst the general public, you would be shocked. Just look to cultures like Japan and Russia that don't strongly condemn such things, and you'll find it's about 15% of the population. It's only less in the West because of the near homicidal stigma attached to it that makes people vigorously hide that part of themselves.

Fortunately, this also shows that the vast majority of those people don't offend.

We also tend to define pedophilia as "anything sexual involving a minor", while reacting to it as if it means "violent rape of a toddler", so no shit, we sexualize youth all the time, the 18 year mark is a legal and social formality, not a hard limit on human attraction. Adults will find themselves attracted to teens, and they won't reveal that because who the fuck ever would?

If anything, the issue isn't that people have these attractions and fantasies, it is that some portion of those people can't separate fantasy from reality and are willing to hurt a child to get what they want, or they are sociopaths that consume child porn without feeling disgust for witnessing horrific child abuse.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think the common incest fantasy in the west isn't too far removed from this too. Like all the actors are above age minimums but they pretend to be step kids or babysitters like these roles aren't commonly associated with children and older teens. It's clearly a form of deflection IMO.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Could also be that those are the only porns with even a half assed attempt at a plot instead of just opening with a ground and pound

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

even a half assed attempt at a plot

"I watch it for the plot, I wonder if they'll ever get her unstuck"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"I just hope she will be able to afford her rent next month"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It probably stuck from the time when porn was becoming a bit more normal to watch, so it still had some nominal plot initially. Still gender roles with women being at home busy with washing machines and all such, or babysitting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As the other comment implies, that's just the easiest plot to shove porn into. I don't think that many people are watching it for the plot, it just happens to be there. Like, people aren't fantasizing about becoming a plumber to fuck women instead of being paid, for example. It's just a lazy plot because they need to give some reason for the scene.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think there's something to be said for how commonly these fantasies and plots feature specifically young or youthful stereotypes. I think there's no denying that people are into that sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For sure some people are into it. I know from my experience I don't care for that plot. I still watch them because that's 90% of porn now it seems, but I don't pretend like it's a teenager and a parent involved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't mean just the "stepsister" stuff but overall the fascination with schoolgirls, babysitters and all that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

As far as I can tell, humanity has been attracted to young adulthood since at least the beginning of recorded history. I won't know why we're still pretending this is some strange or weird thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Personally I think the rise in incest porn has to do with the rise in isolationism. Lots of people, young men especially, are going out less and less and having more of their social interactions online. As a consequence of this, for a number of these men, the vast majority of the real life female interactions they get are from women in their own homes. And biology has a way of adapting, so I think a lot these men are getting confusing feelings about people in their own homes due largely just to lack of outside exposure to women.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

to cultures like Japan and Russia that don’t strongly condemn such things

As someone from Russia - what?

Unless you mean being attracted to post-puberty, but pre-legal girls. That, ahem, makes sense biologically.

Girls of that age are sometimes kinda cruel to boys, though, so my personal teenage years trauma prevents me from dreaming of them. But if not for it, I think I would.

Toddlers are a completely different issue.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is this thing that I feel is most prevalent in the USA, to call any attraction to a girl under the age of 18 pedophilia. Because that's the age to star in porn. The term should truly be used for attraction to children. I think it's an extension of the "pedo panic" where every man is assumed for some reason to be a child rapist now.

As such almost every young man could at some point be caught as a "pedophile"- 17 year olds sneak into clubs all the time, for example. 20 year old hooked up with one? Now he is considered a pedophile even if the actual age of consent is lower.

Meanwhile the porn industry glorifies "barely 18" girls as something highly desirable. It's a little messed up to say the least.

Actual pedos who are into kids should be put in mental institutions. But I would strongly suspect that 15% stated just includes honest young men and creepy old men, none of which are truly pedophiles. That number is way too high.