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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 month ago (26 children)

I don't know how effective VPNs are over a public WiFi network, but I do know it stopped Spectrum from sending me "you are downloading copyrighted material, stop it" emails once I started using one. Fuck Spectrum, I don't have them anymore, but that seems like a good enough reason to keep using one in certain circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (10 children)

They need to advertise a legitimate use for their service.

If they don't have a threat from public wifi or other security concerns to remedy, then the only purpose for their service is to bypass region limits and block infringement notices. They would be considered complicit in such infringement.

That their service also hinders efforts to stop pirates needs to be an "unintended" and "unavoidable" side effect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There are plenty of legitimate uses for their services, they just aren't things that the vast majority of people actually need. For example:

  • access things in a LAN from a WAN - i.e. access a personal PC when you're at a friend's house, and your home LAN is behind CGNAT
  • get around local laws - e.g. my state requires ID checks for porn and social media, so getting a VPN one state over gets around that
  • prevent ISP from seeing the sites you visit - very valid privacy concern, especially since SNI exists to de-mask TLS packets

There are also some sketchier needs, such as:

  • get different content on your streaming platform
  • hide sharing of illegal content (i.e. piracy)
  • perform illegal transactions (e.g. going on Tor to buy drugs or whatever on the black market)

I think VPNs are trying to appeal to more than just the above needs, they're trying to create needs to grow their marketshare. That isn't something a reputable VPN should do, or at least that's something that would make me hesitate to use a given VPN.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only thing you need to say is "my ISP uses CGNAT" you can't host anything or run games for your friends without a way to punch through the CGNAT layer. I mean you could use IPv6 if it weren't still a joke in the US but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yup, CGNAT sucks. But STUN works fine for me, and most games support it, so it's not a huge issue.

I could pay extra for a public IP, but for the same price I can get a VPS and do other cool stuff, so I just went the WireGuard VPN route. Same end result with a little more latency, but also more flexibility. I host a few static sites directly on the VPS, with everything else going through the VPN, so that's nice.

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