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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you not have a gun at the time? Or did your ownership of a gun not prevent the theft?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well then aren't you lucky you had a gun to prevent that theft?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you have reading comprehension problems.

I wasn't home. There was no possibility for me to prevent this theft, gun or no gun.

If it's sarcasm meant to show that things can happen even when armed, no shit. If that is meant to show I shouldn't have one at all, would the counterfactual (situations in which a theft or assault were stopped or prevented) be sufficient to show one should carry?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dude, you're the one talking about how guns can stop theft and your example was a theft that you were not able to stop with a gun. That's not my fault.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

would the counterfactual (situations in which a theft or assault were stopped or prevented) be sufficient to show one should carry?

If not, what was even the point of the question? I get you thought it was pithy but... It's just kind of dumb if you won't allow the counterfactual to support my position.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dude, you’re the one talking about how guns can stop theft and your example was a theft that you were not able to stop with a gun. That’s not my fault.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wouldn't want to answer that question if I were you either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, you being unable to come up with a good example is not my problem, so your question is moot.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you don't want to answer it because you know how easy it is for me to find hundreds of videos online showing exactly what I'm describing and you really don't want to admit it.

If "your gun didn't save you in this one instance" means I shouldn't have one, then the counterfactual should just as easily mean I should. But you're not interested in applying your logic in both directions because that wouldn't suit your position.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Then I guess you should have used one of those videos rather than an example where your gun wouldn't have helped you.

Also, please quote me saying you shouldn't have a gun, or at the very least implying it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Then I guess you should have used one of those videos rather than an example where your gun wouldn’t have helped you.

That was an example of the police not getting my shit back.

In just about every response in this thread you've shown you're not actually here to engage in good faith by being a sarcastic dickhead so I think I'm done with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That would be one way to weasel out of your lie that I suggested you shouldn't have a gun.

Not an especially good way to weasel out of it, but...