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The Communist Manifesto isn't what I'm talking about. The CM is a worker pamphlet, not an explanation of Marxism. The Principles of Communism is a much better introductory work, and for Marx himself, Wage Labor and Capital as well as Value, Price and Profit are excellent texts describing Capitalism. I would also add Socialism: Utopian and Scientific for an introduction to Historical Materialism, and the failures of Utopian Socialists like the Owenites.
Lenin is absolutely worth reading, he was the leader of the first genuine Marxist state, and his contributions to Marxist theory are critical. Specifically, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism furthers Marx's analysis into the modern era of Monopoly Capitalism, aka Imperialism, which Marx was only alive to see the very beginnings of before he passed away.
That sure is a lot of stuff to read and i bet its dry lecture. To be honest, i won't start looking into them, so thus far you have me. Maybe it's ignorant but Lenin, for me, goes in the same pot as Stalin and Mao and the baddest of them all from Austria. I don't know if there are good ideas in their writings/ methods/ ideologies...what i know is that these are people who abused their power. They ordered people killed or at least restrained who wouldn't comply to them...so i don't know if their works and deeds are a thing to build upon.
I not very educated on the matter but i'd think that "Post-growth" in capitalism maybe is a solution or at least a way to a solution?
Capitalism sucks, yeah. They steal from you, yeah. Thing is that this happens in every system as long as humans are involved. So maybe we as a hole have to go through somekind of capitalistic-cataclysm, which i don't want for me or my kids, but has to happen none the less to come up with something neither Marx & Co. or capitalists envisioned as of yet.
It isn't, haha. Pretty easy to read!
Bold claims for someone who refuses to even look at the text, let alone read it. Additionally, equating the Communists to the Nazis is in fact Nazi Apologia.
Do you know that? You evidently don't read, so where do your ideas come from? Imagination?
What on Earth is "post-growth Capitalism?" Where did you pull that from, and why do you already think it capable of being a solution?
How, exactly, are people "stolen from" in Socialism? You don't know what you're talking about, but you sure do have strong opinions about it.
Well I compare the extreme left with the extreme right since it is basically the same imho. Different reasoning for the mindset of "what's not with us is against us".
Communists committed the same crimes as the Nazis so of into the same cell and the key is best disposed of.
And the other big problem with pure socialism:
Why hasn't it worked yet? No Utopia as of yet, only repression, human rights violation and death.
It's as if the human factor is the point where there is change needed, not the system itself.
No offense, but this is a childish view of politics. The extreme left is categorized by trying to care for the entire population, the extreme right is categorized by intense nationalism, xenphobia, and brutal class stratification.
No, they did not. Read Blackshirts and Reds. The Communists and the Nazis represented entirely different groups, and the Communists dramatically improved the lives of their citizenry while the Nazis brutally crushed them.
It has worked and continues to work. Read more than US state propaganda. Utopianism is anti-Marxist, Marxists advocate for Scientific Socialism.
This is Idealism. What's considered Human Nature is expressed and reinforced by the system itself, the Mode of Production.
Read a book sometime.
"It has worked and continues to work. Read more than US state propaganda. Utopianism is anti-Marxist, Marxists advocate for Scientific Socialism."
Yeah...the DDR worked so well they had to build a wall to keep people from leaving the country.
UdssR worked also so well that the ex-member nations would rather burn than return.
North Korea is such an awesome system it also hinders it's people at leaving. Oh and the regular parades to praise the leader... much social yeah.
Uh and China...nice place to live? Yeah, I sincerely believe that but you say something, anything against the system? Ups...bye bye social points. And the internet is totally not censored. Tian'anmen square? Nothing ever happened!
Yep, people would get free, high quality education, and then go to the west to make more money.
Wrong, actually. The vast majority regret the fall of the USSR and say they lived better under it.
None of this is a point other than saying you aren't allowed to emigrate, which isn't even entirely true.
Social Credit is largely a myth, Capitalist countries have worse systems.
Capitalist internet is also censored.
Tian'anmen Square in April 1989 was actually peaceful, the conflicts and deaths happened outside the square itself, hence why there's a western myth that the CPC is somehow covering up a mass-Maoist protest against Dengist reforms, when the CPC acknowledges that hundreds of people were killed that day in the areas surrounding the Square.
Please, read. Anything.
So you shoot them for leaving the country because they got education in your system? Yeah...very social of you.
Nostalgia: A mood triggered by discomfort with the present and filled with an indefinite longing, which is expressed in a return to a past time that has been transfigured in the imagination and whose fashion, art, music, etc. is revived.
i bet we're far better of than the UdssR was. Again: you don't comply? Ok Gulag for you!
The East was basically funding the West's education for skilled labor, so the West got all of the free advantage from the East's social programs.
Yep, the Soviet system had better metrics than the Capitalist systems.
Red scare propaganda, the US is preparing for war with the PRC.
You can search and even visit Xinjiang
There was no massacre on the square. There was lots of fighting and killing in the surrounding areas, between a few hundred and couple thousand people died that day when adding up PLA and rioter deaths, but the fighting didn't happen on the square. The west uses the fact that on Chinese sites there's no mention of a massacre on the square to pretend the CPC is saying it didn't happen anywhere.