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[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm confused, how can a company that's gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model? Weren't a lot of the advantages (like access to data and scraping) given with the stipulation that it's for a non-profit? This sounds like it should be illegal to my brain

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Careful you're making too much sense here and overlapping with Elmo's view on the subject

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A stopped clock is still correct twice a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

And OpenAI is still less correct than a broken clock.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Guess I'm out of the loop. Who's Elmo?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

angry Sesame Street noises

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Elongated Muskrat

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago

I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model

Money

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

Can't do crimes if you're rich. It's in the Constitution

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Money doesn't have any advantages in other countries? When did that happen?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't see where I said that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can no longer make the same connection you did earlier?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the person that you’re replying to said something that’s true about the USA. they didn’t say anything about other countries.

for another example, i can say “if you’re in the USA, then the current year is 2024” and that statement will be true. it is also true in every other country (for the moment), but that’s besides the point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I replied that it's also true in other countries, it's not a problem only the US has. It's not besides the point. It's acting as if only the US has the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And I specifically mentioned the USA because that's the country where OpenAI operates and where the events in the article take place, so if someone asks why it's so easy for OpenAI to go from being a nonprofit to a for-profit company (this was the issue I was responding to, not some general question about whether money has influence around the world), it's the laws of the USA that are relevant, not the laws of other countries.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Money and purchasing the right people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Their non-profit status had nothing to do with the legality of their training data acquisition methods. Some of it was still legal and some of it was still illegal (torrenting a bunch of books off a piracy site).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well maybe not on paper but they did leverage it a lot when questioned

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

These people claimed their product can pass the bar exam (it was a lie). Tells you how they feel about the legal system