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Hey privacy community! A few weeks back I've seen an article posted here or in some other tech community about TSA rolling out biometric ID process in some US airports, that involved taking a face scan.

I had an international flight planned and I wouldn't want to go through biometric ID, but I was anxious of potential delay and having to explain myself to TSA agents. I also convinced my wife to opt out, which could potentially double the delay.

So for the folks who may have the same concerns, I'd like to share my experience.

I went on my flight a few days back from Newark International Airport (EWR). We went through security check in new Terminal A. At the beginning of the security line there were a few clearly visible posters about biometric ID with opt out information. To opt out you just need to tell TSA agent that you don't want your photo to be taken. The poster also says that you will not lose your place in line if you opt out. Same posters are on each agent desk.

The scanning machine is on every agent's desk, next to the opt out posters. It has a screen, about 8", with something that looks like a set of stereo lenses on top of it. The screen shows the live feed of the person in front of it during scanning process, with a template of a face that helps to properly position it. The scanning process seems to be very quick.

Now, for the opt out - it is indeed as easy and seamless as they claim. I asked the agent to not take my picture, he just said OK and asked me for my passport. The scanning machine didn't turn on. He scanned my passport and gave it back, and I was done, no questions asked.

Actually, I noticed that people who had their faces scanned also had to hand passports over. So they had to spend more time with the agent than I. I assume because it was their first time through this biometric collection and next time they just scan their face again and that's it.

And while I was pleased how easy it was for me and my family to opt out of this, in my opinion, completely unnecessary privacy invasion, I have not observed any other person (out of maybe 100 who passed before me) who did the same. Unfortunately, we know here how easily and thoughtless people give away yet another piece of their personal data. In this case, the data that can be used next time to ID people via video surveillance without any consent.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did you happen to look up while standing in the TSA line? Surprise, there’s cameras there too. Sure, they’re not getting a straight-on shot of your face, but still getting a clear shot nonetheless. There’s no winning in this situation sadly

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Except when they get caught using ur face in facial recognition for security cameras across the globe its without your consent and forces the courts to admit they illegally took ur face for recognition. Yoyr rights will be violated its just trying to make the job of the people who will have to go and fight for them back easyer

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Labeling datasets is costly process. When you dont opt out, you're letting them build a labelled dataset on you-specifically for free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They already have your photo for your passport or license and they don’t need permission to take video or photos in an airport at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think these cameras are used to ID people routinely. Government already has my photo - I have passport anyways. However, face scan is much more sophisticated and they cannot take it with overhead cameras

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Last time I denied a photo from CBP, the agent at the desk told me they're using the cameras above for facial recognition.

He could a been lying or wrong, but -- even if its illegal -- I wouldn't be surprised if they or some other 3 letter org is doing this.

The NSA was hacking into Yahoo Video and corporate CCTV camera feeds to train their facial recognition systems, what, 10 years ago?