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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (14 children)

the surprising thing there isn't that they went back on their word, but that they said it in the first place.

Seriously, how could an OS company seriously believe they'd never need or want to release a new major version

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It was to keep everyone in their eco system and just update it as they found more ways to extract revenue

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Right but they could have done that without promising that 10 would be the last Windows version. Let's be honest, everyone is already locked into their ecosystem outside of enthusiasts and people with Apple Hardware. If you want a non-mac laptop/desktop, unless you go well out of your way, you're almost certain to end up with a Windows PC, they didn't need the "last version" gimmick to keep people on Windows.

Hell, a lot of non-techy people who are already used to using Windows would rather not use a computer than learn to use a new OS. It's easy to forget how tech illiterate the average person is

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I’m probably one of the less technically literate people here and in my case, you’re absolutely right. I assume Linux involves typing commands somewhere and I, frankly, have to look up how to do a vlookup in excel every time it happens.

I would probably prefer to use my phone (an old ass iPhone) instead of a computer with a totally new os. I’m not a huge fan of macs, but it’s still basically the same on the user end. I suspect linux is more different.

Inb4: I straight up don’t have time to switch my os for at least a year, I just wanted to support the above comment. I am well aware that my assumptions are probably wrong, just wanted to share what the reputation of Linux is among non tech people (if they’ve ever even heard of it).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I assume Linux involves typing commands somewhere

It doesn’t, it’s akin to command prompt/poweshell on Windows albeit less verbose or Terminal in Mac. It’s just something you can do but if you don’t use it on Windows then you aren’t going to need it on Linux

I would probably prefer to use my phone instead of a computer with a totally new os

Android/Chrome OS are Linux, I think this is the easiest way to show people how little “command typing” is needed

just wanted to share what the reputation of Linux is among non tech people

Tech people use that reputation as well, a bunch of people think it makes them smarter but Linux is better for non tech people than Windows because it has a natural defense against scammers/viruses.

I switched to it because Windows was too complicated and I couldn’t get anything to run well <- Linux has less overhead but that wasn’t my issue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it’s akin to command prompt/poweshell on Windows albeit less verbose or Terminal in Mac. It’s just something you can do but if you don’t use it on Windows then you are going to need it on Linux.

You just lost 99% of windows and Mac users right there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I meant aren’t

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe you, I just don’t have any issues with windows, so there’s no need to change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That’s fine, I wasn’t trying to do a sales pitch

Just trying to clear up the cli thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should read up the Halloween documents to get a better understanding of where some of those assumptions (which to be fair have since become something of a self fulfilling prophecy...) originate from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am well aware that my assumptions are probably wrong

No, no, this is entirely accurate. It's just that the Linux-a-boos would love to tell you otherwise. But it's all a bunch of circle jerking. The people who are willing to deal with that and have already dived need justification and will tell you it's simple.

Sure, some distros are a bit more hands off and "works out of the box". But you still have to find the box. And figure out how to open the box. And figure out how to get it out of the box. And then it just works. Until it doesn't.

It's not as hard as it used to be, but anyone telling you "any normie can just do it and never look back" is full of shit. It still has its hurdles and you'll still be occasionally troubleshooting your own PC. Most people don't want that. But the people who do are already running Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My grandmother has been running under Linux for about 6 years now after constantly needing people to fix her Windows install. She can barely use Facebook.

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