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I have no idea if he did or didn't any of the alleged. But what happened to innocent u til proven guilty? Anyone accused of anything these days gets cancelled.
I mean there are definately people who havent been canceled. Reminder that Chris Brown is probably bigger than he once was and everyone knows hes actually beaten up people
Worst case scenario Ben Shepiro offers them a spot on the Daily Wire.
I'd argue it's the opposite.
Most working class people can suffer real consequences as a result of it. Those who are rich, famous, and/or influential can afford to just pivot.
Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.
They don’t have to continue to pay him if they don’t want to — innocent, guilty, whichever. Just like they don’t have to continue to host nazi garbage or MAGA garbage if they don’t want to.
Sure, but imagine your employer just fired you because of accusations before it ever reached trial. Illegal? No. Ruining someone's livelihood even though they're innocent legally speaking? Yes.
Not defending this person, I genuinely do not even know who they are. But "private company can do whatever they want, your rights are only something the government has to care about" is a pretty concerning position to take. Not to mention they didn't seem to take down or stop running ads on the channel, just stopped giving him the money. They're profiting off of his content without paying him and using an unverified (but very possibly accurate) accusation as an excuse. That should be illegal.
I would hope my job would fire me if there were a dozen complaints about me ranging from mental abuse to rape over the span of over a decade.
I agree with you about Google just pocketing any money made off him though, that's messed up
The influx of libertarian dead minded commenters here is exhausting. Too concerned with zero tolerance rules to even consider the details or understand the difference. I thought Reddit was bad.
When YouTube disables monetization they stop running any ads on the channel. Other articles like this one are clearer on that matter.
Don't kkow too much about him but I liked him in this video.
This only works because Youtube has the loosest form of contracts with its creators. Your regular employers can't fire you because of allegations or hearsay (modulo local labor laws).
This puts Russel Brand in a position to sue for libel and slander as the court of public opinion has already declared him guilty. What happens if he is found innocent at his court case. What if they did this to Johnny Depp?
Nothing. These people aren’t entitled to companies wanting to work with them. This isn’t the same thing as being a W-2 worker somewhere.
"Not guilty" is distinct from "innocent", and such a verdict, if a trial ever comes of this, would not impact libel or slander. Being unable to prove your accusations in court to the standard required is not a determination that the accusations were false, only that doubt remained.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, nobody here knows if he did it or not.
Unfortunately, that's pretty much a wrap for him. Nobody has come back from rape allegations, even if they win in court.
I don't even like the guy, but I really dislike how we've regressed to the point where feelings are more important than facts.
Cancelled people don't come back!? What fucking planet are you living on?
Bret The Rapist Kavanaugh got everything he wanted after getting cancelled.
Floyd Wife Beater Mayweather will still be remembered for his boxing career than the shit he should be remembered for.
Louie Indecent Exposure CK came back to the Comedy Scene years after getting cancelled only to make disingenuous jokes about his behavior.
These pieces of garbage should hang their heads in shame and suffer social ostracism until all their victims vocally and emphatically forgive them publicly.
The fact we make excuses for and defend these "people" because of their social status and a myriad of legal loopholes that allow for them to walk free with their heads held high while their victims are questioned and vilified is fucking pathetic.
Trump lost in civil court for what the judge called rape, and still has a rabid fan base.
Why'd they try rape in civil court? Rape is a crime.
It was a defamation case in which the courts determined that Trump made false statements by denying the allegations because he most likely did sexually assault E. Jean Carroll.
No criminal case was brought because it's beyond the statute of limitations, and since the legal bar in a criminal case is higher I don't think any prosecutor would bring those charges even if statute of limitations wasn't an issue.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/e-jean-carroll-sued-trump-defamation-last-resort-blame-statute-ncna1077321
There was no real evidence though. Just he said she said. Let's not pretend like there aren't huge incentives to make false allegations and that there are entities out there capable executing on that plan. I say this as someone who is not a fan of Trump.
I mean Deshaun Watson came back with 230 million dollars guaranteed after several sexual harrasment allegations. Public image wise hes gone, but that doesnt mean he still doesnt make a shit ton of money (and all of it guaranteed)
Several? Man was at 26 allegations and he is still currently being sued. The Browns were stupid enough to pay him thinking he was going to save them and to a vast majority of football fans joy he isn't playing well. I wouldn't be shocked if he goes broke.
What about Johnny Depp? Don’t forget Al Franken too.
Presumption of innocence is in law. IANAL.
He isn't jailed is he?
And not even cancelled either. He is still even allowed to post content to Youtube.
Anyone who can still say they are cancelled aren't actually cancelled.