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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Seems like a paltry amount, given what savvy social engineers could do with that data.

If you don't use proper security practices, you should be on the hook for prison time at a minimum.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It should be $0 because this was a credential stuffing attack (Using breached passwords people reused), and affected people who knowingly shared their data with other people.

23&me didn't leak data, they didn't have any database breaches, their infrastructure wasn't compromised due to negligence...etc The majority share of negligence is in the users here.

Yes, they should have MFA, but also no, most sites and services don't force you to use MFA to begin with, and that's not a regulatory requirement anyways.

This is, for the most part, the fault of the folks using terrible security practices such as refusing passwords and sharing their data with other users. And this is a shitty precedent to set where the technical reasons for this event are thrown out the window in favor of the politics of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who would you jail? How would you decide whos responsible? You can't jail the entire company.

But with a sufficient size fine you can make everyone at the company regret that decision, directly or indirectly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who would I jail? The C-officers. Your shit show, your responsibility. If you can't trust your employees, figure out why or do the work yourself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I've always been hugely in favor of it. It's the one change that could maybe justify their gargantuan salaries -- if your company causes harm and suffering, the leaders absolutely need to be put on the hook.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You punish everyone in proportion to their responsibility

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But they're not suggesting they be punished at all...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So all the people who actually make the decisions walk away scot-free?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't say that. However, if delegation is too risky, do the work yourself.