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Why does it need to be an app then? And why one server?
Literally, what you’ve described is the www. The browser is your thin client. It connects to not one but many millions of servers and is able to use their resources to run queries, access menus, place orders. All that jazz.
Oh, and with the ridiculous advancements in technology, streaming services and games work amazingly too! Video streaming is so well studied that every Tom, Dick, and Disney has started their own streaming service and is charging through the nose for it. Every year, folks get arrested for running Plex servers or IPTV with millions of hours of pirated content that is used by thousands of their happily paying customers (more happy than Disney’s customers).
And Amazon Luna and Xbox and PlayStation have all shown how game streaming can be so easily done over HTML5. The only blocker on making that the default way of gaming is Apple’s greed. Not that it’s a good default. There’s something to be said about mobile hardware and chip design that has made amazing advancements in the last few years in the GPU space, making on-device processing really worth it.
Don’t remember what it’s called but there’s an internet law - that any advancement in hardware will immediately be offset by more expensive software requirements which will consume more of those resources. Looking at you, Chrome. Also looking at you, react framework.
If you want to get deals for the grocery store you need their app, cheaper deals for pizza, have to open the dominos/Pizza Hut app, I rarely go to Taco Bell, Starbucks, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, etc but they all want you to use their app to get access to their coupons and order things. Maybe their points all add up on their websites, would just have to save all the logins in a password manager. Kroger comes to mind because they now use in store prices, price with Kroger card, and price with coupon from mobile app. It's crazy that that is allowed, but if they are going to charge 3.99 for a watermelon if you have the mobile app, and 6.99 regular, unfortunately I will cave and install the app.
Edit: seeing a product for sale with 3 prices listed below it is mildly infuriating
Part of what you’ve described is market economics. They want your loyalty and they want to track your purchases to sell that data to advertisers. Do they need an app for that? Absolutely not. They can and do host websites with the same deals and all you have to do is login. The reason they push you to their app is because either the app is something they spent a bunch of money on and want to increase customer adoption. Or, they have added massive new tracking capabilities and want to spy on their users on behalf of advertisers, so they need you on their app.
None of this is related to the technical aspects of this question. In fact, most of these companies would resist you installing their app on an “app server” simply because then they wouldn’t be able to track your location and other phone details easily. Defeating the purpose of your idea.
Oh, and as for the watermelon - there’s a sweet spot between the prices which is usually $5 if you use their loyalty card and not their app. That’s the price you pay for your phone’s privacy and resources - a buck. Not a fair trade, but it is what it is.
p.s. I hear you about the three prices thing. It’s frustrating. Grocery shopping is not simple. It’s all about hunting for deals and accepting the time vs money trade off. I’m sorry you are in this situation. I am too.
Yeah, the location data wouldn't function right as you said. They wouldn't know you were at the store on 5th Street if the app is running on a machine at home I suppose. Could always manually search it.
Not your fault we are in that situation. Hope your life comes into many a cheap watermelon.
Part of the reason for all this bullshit is people will just do it instead of going to a different place that doesn't require bullshit but maybe costs a little more. 🤷♂️
This seems like your bed? If you're not willing to go to a place that doesn't do this to you, I guess you just gotta lie in it.
It’s also what the phone number club card has been about for the past few decades. I still type in the public phone number for my local store every time (after noticing that’s what the clerk used one time when I was “having trouble” entering my number on the pin pad). Grocery app on my phone? Hell no.