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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20289663

A report from Morgan Stanley suggests the datacenter industry is on track to emit 2.5 billion tons by 2030, which is three times higher than the predictions if generative AI had not come into play.

The extra demand from GenAI will reportedly lead to a rise in emissions from 200 million tons this year to 600 million tons by 2030, thanks largely to the construction of more data centers to keep up with the demand for cloud services.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Look, i'm not saying that this isn't a problem. My only question is, is this one of those "global warming is because people don't recycle their soda bottles" things? In other words, How concerned should I be about this vs, taking attention away from the energy, beef, and transportation industry?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Very concerned. It’s currently a race who can speed run us to extinction first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you're saying that we should be concerned with datacenters more than things like factory farming and oil & gas?

I don't follow. I need a lot more evidence of harm before I become "very concerned" about datacenters specifically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't you dare say that eating meat is bad bro, someone will get very upset and point their finger at AI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're not even making sense anymore 🤣

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think this is something to focus on. Tech being 40% of all emissions in the US is suspicious, given that in 2021, all industry was 30.1%, and all transportation was 28.5%. And the total emissions in the US was 6.3 billion tons. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=108623

I don't have more recent data (if it's in the article, I didn't see it at a skim) but I feel like oil, gas, and agriculture are the bigger long-term targets.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like Techradar misunderstood parts of the source story. The projected emissions over the next 10 years is equal to 40% of all US emissions. The Register

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a percent against the world's emissions. Be concerned less with this. AI is the current hate train whipping boy, and takes the pressure of public focus off the biggest polluters.