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And a good example of how communes work in a small community. On a national scale however, they will always fail as long as they are controlled by fallible humans. Once the AI overlords are in charge, I'm sure it will work out fine.
Yeah it doesn’t work because resources are scarce. Then on a national scale only a few people have control over these scarce national resources. Which gives these people too much power. And often the people in control are sociopaths especially if they came in to power via a revolution aka a violent coup.
Then you have failed to implement communism. Why are you only giving a few people access?
What’s your fix? The same problem always crops up
Just ban corruption /s
No, it really doesn't.
I understand that. Let’s say everyone has access. Suddenly someone decides they want it all. Someone polices the amount people can take. Then they have the access and the process repeats
This was there same system imposed in communes. At scale, the threat of public shame is no longer enough
Nah
If you set aside a class of "protectors", you're just asking for trouble.
Okay, so people will always take more than they should. We see this time and again with quite literally every single power system. What do you propose we do to make sure everyone gets their share?
Democratic centralism.
Why are you asking me to repeat myself? And also, why do you have so little faith in democracy? Bourgeois democracy, sure, but actual democracy of the people, with no bureaucracy?
So everyone decides who gets what and when. What if you’re not really liked in your community? Personally I don’t really have faith in humanity in general
That makes it sound far more direct and personal. No, the community democratically decides how resources are distributed. And rules like "Dave can't have bananas" are too stupid to even consider in this.
Why should that matter?
That's your own bias, and your own problem to deal with.